posted by [identity profile] vylit.livejournal.com at 03:21pm on 27/04/2008
"Personally, I just don't know enough about any them as people (or as characters) to write about them or even necessarily to read about them, and that's not an issue of race. I don't think it's fair to assume that people aren't writing smut about Disashi because he's black."

But, see, you can of did say that it didn't exist.

The difference is that the most popular bands -- FOB, MCR, Panic -- all get written about extensively. The problem is that GCH is more popular than Panic, but they're not written about. Travis, who has PLENTY of slashy canon with several people and most recently, Pete -- Pete might be engaged, but most of MCR is married and they get slashed constantly and Pete still gets slashed, just usually with white guys -- and still Travis doesn't get written with any kind of frequency.

Also, in every single fandom I've ever been in -- seven over the last five and a half years -- even when people of color are the main characters, they're not written with even half the frequency of white characters. It isn't a coincidence, it's far too prevalent for that, and the argument that it isn't related to race is used in every. single. fandom. because people don't want to deal with the fact that there is racism in fandom, and that racism isn't limited to guys who like to walk around in their mama's sheets.
Edited Date: 2008-04-27 03:24 pm (UTC)
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posted by [identity profile] xcarex.livejournal.com at 04:03pm on 27/04/2008
GCH is more popular than Panic, but they're not written about.

I completely disagree with this. Maybe GCH are more popular ~outside~ of bandom (in the States, anyway), but since that's not where the slash is being written, it's irrelevant. Panic are definitely more popular with the internet and bandom at large, hence being written about way waaaaaaay more.
 
posted by [identity profile] sidewinder.livejournal.com at 04:56pm on 27/04/2008
Panic are definitely more popular with the internet and bandom at large, hence being written about way waaaaaaay more.

But that's a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? They're popular why? With (this particular branch of) bandom, why? Why more popular with writers in this section of fandom, when, apparently (I don't know as my bandoms are mostly classic rock), GCH has more mainstream popularity than Panic?

I've seen what [livejournal.com profile] vylit is talking about plenty of times in all different fic-generating areas of fandom: some blatantly obvious/subtext-filled relationships in movies/tv/bands/etc that aren't written about, often when there's a much less obvious (but all-white) pairing in the same canon that is (Hi, "Angel" fandom. Why oh why was Gunn/Wesley not more popular?) Movies that were fabulously slashy yet one of the members of the pairing was black, asian, or hispanic, and...just nothing. One or two dedicated writers and lots of folks who may say, "Wow that was slashy!" but nada as far as developing the fandom following you'd think the source material deserves.
 
posted by [identity profile] helluvalot.livejournal.com at 02:38am on 28/04/2008
i agree with this comment so hard i actually just squeaked at my computer.

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