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posted by [identity profile] zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com at 05:56pm on 27/04/2008
The point I was trying to make is that there are plenty of people in this bandom that aren't getting fic written about them, and that it's not necessarily always about race. How is that a useful point to make? In what way does that not negate zee's point that there is a problem with race?

Maybe you thought you were saying something original and inciteful, but I have had discussions about race and fandom before, and there is always somebody jumping in to say, "I just like these white guys, better," or, "It's not about race, it's just that there aren't as many CoCs," or whatever they can think of to say, which basically amounts to the problem is not as bad as the OP presents it, just leave me alone to write about my favorite white guys.

In today's discussion, you were that person. Congratulations.
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posted by [identity profile] xcarex.livejournal.com at 07:32pm on 27/04/2008
Maybe the reason that people keep saying this is that, for some of us, it's the truth. I'm not sure how else to say that. Sorry.
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posted by [identity profile] zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com at 08:21pm on 27/04/2008
Maybe the reason that people keep saying this is that, for some of us, it's the truth. I'm not sure how else to say that. Sorry.

http://brown-betty.livejournal.com/213836.html

What I am trying to get across is that if, for you, that is the truth, if you honestly and truly don't believe that you, in particular, are not having a problem writing people because of their race/ethnicity, if in a past fannish life you wrote about HBP-compliant Blaise Zabini, or Sulu, or Jake Sisko, or whatever, if you for serious and for real have reason to think you are not part of the problem … protesting your innocence makes you part of the problem and makes you look like the bad guy, because the cumulative effect of all of those people saying, "But I just like these white guys better, it has nothing to do with race," is to say, "Fandom uses CoC for fanactivity less than white guys because white guys are sexier/more deeply written/more numerous/more gay/better."
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posted by [identity profile] anglwitscbdwngs.livejournal.com at 03:56am on 28/04/2008
IAWTC. I was surprised to find it so soon in the comment thread, but not surprised to find it.

omg. i love that a race in bandom convo is starting to kick off. because yeah, i like to know where the people around me stand. and sometimes this fandom can be a little ambiguous. *we all think Travie is hot and his hair is just crazy fun; but you know lets not talk about his BLACKNESS.*
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posted by [identity profile] zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com at 04:26am on 28/04/2008
This year I've been through the wars on this issue: SGA, HP, High School Musical ... have you heard of [livejournal.com profile] deadbrowalking. It's fictional person focused, but you might like it anyway.
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posted by [identity profile] anglwitscbdwngs.livejournal.com at 06:03am on 28/04/2008
lol. thanks. totally been rocking with deadbro for a little over a year now. i kind of lurk except when particularly motivated. but thanks for the suggestion.
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