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I agree with you. I said in my own comment below that I personally don't read fic about them because I don't find them attractive, not because they aren't white. People are getting too easily offended over this.
And you're right, there are lots of bandom people who hardly get written about, and they are white. I don't want to offend anyone by saying this, and I mean nothing bad against
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That is a lovely stance to take when you are not the person who's culture/group/identity is being disappeared. Thanks for letting us know.
I cannot drag something with me as if its a part of who I am everyday of my life *all the time*.
Okay the activist/Afro-Am Major/Angry Black Woman in me could pick apart the rest of your statement (and what it represents in a larger conversation about race and fandom) but I feel like it would take it to a personal level which really isn't the point.
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I'm not gonna lie and say that there are people in bandom who won't write/read fic centered around characters of color because of the race issue. But for the most part, people just aren't into these guys. I am just not really excited about anything GCH related, so I don't read fic about them. I don't find them attractive, so I don't read fic about them. That's not a racist thing, and there are many people who share similar views with me.
I made the comment about 'dragging the race issue' into things because too many times, people I know who aren't white will want to over exaggerate racial issues and see something small and insignificant as proof of racial discrimination. Honestly, imo, people getting upset that there aren't enough GCH fic or fics in general centered around people of color is an example of this. It's not like I haven't been where you've been or where any other person of color has been regarding social treatments that aren't fair because of race. But I think people latch on the the "issue" and see it in absolutely everything when it isn't really there, or isn't nearly as big as people make it out to be.
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i still think that its not okay to tell people that they are too sensitive when they feel parts of their identities are being disappeared, ignored, or attacked.
i also think that people often consider that when people of color bring up "little" racial misunderstandings that they are not acknowledging the ways that our experiencing of these things are systemic and therefore continuous. no the first time someone asks me why my hair is that this texture it doesn't seem like that big a deal. given that the question is asked at least once a week...i will bite your head off if you bring it up.
i disagree with you that it is unreasonable to assume that part of the reason people don't read fic about CoC's is because of race issues in whatever country/continent/part of the world. because racism is a pervasive and often unconscious system that affects our ways of seeing the world that we are often not conscious of.
and i will vehemently disagree that race is simply an "issue" to latch onto and that really isn't there or isn't nearly as big. we are all racialized. therefore any interaction between people invokes race because it is part of makes us who we are. we might or might not identify with all the things that other people ascribe to that part of us. but we are all racialized.
but back to my original point of this post that i am sorry for assuming you were white based on your comments. that was not okay.
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I understand where your coming from. I've heard your points made many times by people I speak with about similar issues. I'm not trying to minimalize anyone's hurt over racial generalizations or mistrestments, trust me. But because of my own experieces with people taking things out of hand and almost wanting to find a problem concerning race when there really is nothing there, I can't help but stand by my opinion that lack of COCs in bandom fic is not an indication of racist/anti-color authors or readers. This fandom as a whole would just prefer to read about characters that are vastly white. I don't think that is grounds for arguing racial discrimination. People have different tastes in what they find attractive or interesting. *shrugs* You can't really argue with them for their opinion on what's hot or not.
(And as far as the hair thing, gah, I feel your pain. I hate it when people always ask me why my eyebrows are so thick. It's like, fuck, they're big, I don't color them in or try to make them look ~high fashion~. It's just the way they are.)